Can Access to Mom's ICU Medical Records Enhance Care & Treatment?

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This is another episode of “YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED” and in last week’s episode I answered another question from our readers and the question was

How Can I Stop the Negativity from Doctors About My Critically Ill Mom in ICU?

You can check out last week’s question by clicking on the link here.

In this week’s episode of “YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED” I want to answer questions from one of my clients, Emma, as part of my 1:1 consulting and advocacy service! Emma’s mom is critically ill in ICU and she is asking if getting access to her mom’s ICU medical records can enhance care and treatment.

Can Access to Mom’s ICU Medical Records Enhance Care & Treatment?

“You can also check out previous 1:1 consulting and advocacy sessions with me and Emma here.”

Part 1

Emma: It all hinged on whether she took the Remdesivir or not, which I thought is kind of strange.

Patrik: It’s very strange. That’s very strange. I mean-

Julius: And I got the-

Patrik: You go. You go.

Julius: I got the gold standard in our place, which is U-M, and I actually have the whole plan.

Emma: Yeah. Tell us what you think about that. What do you think about that? I’m curious.

Patrik: What do I think about the whole Remdesivir?

Emma: Yeah, what’s your thought? Yeah, what’s your thoughts about it in general?

Patrik: Yeah. I’ll tell you. Yup. I almost take the whole remdesivir out of an ICU context. And what I mean by that is the COVID narrative. It’s just a whole lot of crap.

Emma: Oh yeah.

Patrik: And the remdesivir just ties into that narrative. Again, it comes down to the narrative. The narrative has been crumbling now for a long time. But obviously if people are in this situation, like your mom, they’re still sucked into that narrative.

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Julius: Yes.

Emma: Yep. I thought the narrative was over. I didn’t know-

Julius: I thought it was over.

Emma: I didn’t know it was still there.

Patrik: It’s not over. It’s not, but it’s crumbling. It’s crumbling.

Julius: Okay. That’s good news.

Patrik: Look, pulling it into an ICU context, early on in COVID, ICUs, whether it’s in the U.S., in the U.K., here in Australia, they were trying to standardize the care of an ICU patient with COVID. And I just thought to myself, “You don’t even know enough about COVID and it’s still brand new.” I believe it’s still brand new. Not enough data has been gathered to say that Remdesivir is the only option. That’s just not how medicine works.

Julius: No.

Emma: Right.

Julius: And that’s the-

Emma: That was the only option. That was the problem.

Julius: So, I did have this conversation flat out in the room with the nurse, and they’re all … now the ICU nurse, and I said, “I am really having a hard time believing that any other treatment, any cancers, anything, there’s always more than one lane or one choice on drug.” And I said, do you have anything like ivermectin, medicines, a few different kinds of drugs?” And he’s like … you could just tell, like, “Oh, my God, you said the word.”

Emma: They freaked out.

Julius: And they freaked. It wasn’t even like I’m saying, “This is the best.” I wanted to hear that there’s other options. And it’s not. And then my dad and I continued the week, even with my own really good family friend of an ICU type of nurse, and they all are like, “Yep, yep, yep.” And my dad and I listened to them tell us how … We basically knew my mom was going to get to this point. It was already preplanned in so many ways. It was-

Emma: Yeah, everything that’s been happening has been following this plan. He actually has a chart of this plan.

Julius: I have a table one. I have charts. It’s-

Emma: You should send him that.

Julius: I know. But I don’t know if-

Emma: You probably would find that interesting.

Julius: Yeah, I should too.

Emma: Yeah, you’d find this interesting, I think. You probably know more than we would on … Would make more sense to you. We really should do that.

Patrik: Look, the-

Emma: Kind of like what they have behind the scenes, it’s sort of like what they would be looking at behind the scenes that we wouldn’t have access to about step by step, by step. Almost like a flow chart of what’s going to go. It’s-

Patrik: Yeah. No, definitely. Definitely. As I said, I have my own thoughts about the whole COVID. And it’s also like, Julius, you mentioned yesterday, your mom is also on antibiotics. And I’ve seen this over and over again since COVID. Patients go into ICU with COVID they get the remdesivir and next thing you know they’re getting antibiotics and antifungals. And I just go like-

Julius: Yup.

Emma: Yup.

Julius: Oh, there’s tons of it.

Emma: And I just go, like, “Hang on, hang on, what is it? Is it COVID or is it bacterial pneumonia? What is it?”

Julius: Okay.

Emma: That’s exactly what I said. Oh, my God.

Julius: Oh, that’s identical to what we said to the doctor yesterday.

Emma: I just said that to the doctor and he got angry with me because he wanted to push the COVID. And I said, “Well, let’s put that aside because the time has gone past. We’re past COVID now. Let’s just deal with bacterial pneumonia and that.”

Patrik: I don’t know what you’ve sort of read in the last two years, a lot of information has come out sort of saying, “Have people died of COVID or have they died with COVID?” Big difference.

Emma: Exactly.

Julius: Yep.

Emma: Yep.

Julius: With.

Emma: Yes, I do have the-

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Patrik: Big difference. But, again, comes back to the narrative of the media and God knows whom.

Julius: I know. It’s scary. It’s so scary. I’ve never watched so many people-

Emma: I couldn’t believe this far afterwards; I can’t believe we were in this situation where they’re still pushing the original narrative as if it was day one. That’s what I felt like.

Patrik: Yeah. But look-

Emma: It’s very bad.

Patrik: I do believe people are waking up. It’s sad that people didn’t think for themselves, day one. They just got sucked into the … I mean, I just thought from day one, this is complete overreach. This is completely ridiculous.

Emma: Thank you. Yeah.

Patrik: That was my response from day one, when they put people into lockdown, and everyone went into … I just go like, “This is complete government overreach. I don’t need the government to keep me safe.”

Emma: Exactly.

Julius: Yeah. Well, that’s what-

Emma: Exactly Wow. We’re like on the same, well-

Julius: Yeah. This is where we are. My mom was too.

Emma: I was that way right at the beginning too, right at the start.

Julius: That’s the problem.

Emma: Everybody hated me at that time, when I was like-

Julius: That’s the problem. Because we have never been anti-vaxxers ever.

Emma: No.

Patrik: I’m not anti-vaxxer, not at all. But-

Julius: But COVID, she would not take that. If they would’ve said it was a COVID shot, she would’ve taken it. COVID vaccine, she said, “It’s absolutely too early and it is not a vaccine.” So, she’s stuck by that. And if this is what ends up … She did not want it. And we haven’t done it, but I mean we’re not anti-vaxxers. And now-

Patrik: No, it’s not-

Julius: We haven’t had it done, the COVID vaccine.

Patrik: Yeah.

Julius: I’ve never been tested, never been vaccinated for COVID.

Emma: Yeah.

Julius: But I mean, it makes me feel … because that’s how we feel. And we are getting treated … Oh, I want to add that, that is one of the reasons why this narrative also had to happen, and this doom and gloom, because my mom unfortunately didn’t take the vaccine.

Emma: Oh, yes. If you didn’t have the vaccine-

Julius: That was the do all.

Emma: … you’re doomed and gloomed. I’m like, “Well, gee, I’m surprised I’m still alive then.”

Patrik: Exactly.

Emma: That’s explains …

Patrik: Exactly. Exactly.

Julius: So, you go into the plan. You go into the plan if you don’t. And really, honestly, my mom waited too long. She could have been an outpatient here.

Emma: Yeah.

Julius: Unfortunately.

Patrik: Right.

Emma: She waited too long.

Patrik: Right.

Emma: When she found out about it, had gotten too far.

Julius: Yeah. I mean, it’s so disgusting that that can happen to her so quickly. Five days can make your organs … I mean, it’s literally five-

Patrik: Well, unfortunately, that’s what we’ve seen over the last … since COVID started, that for the people that have not survived COVID, it shuts them down within days.

Julius: Oh, days.

Emma: Yeah, days.

Julius: I mean, my dad, mom, same. I’m sure my mom gave it to my dad.

Emma: At the same time.

Julius: Same time, everything. And my dad wasn’t in the greatest shape, but he definitely wasn’t … I would’ve cured him at home, personally, if it hadn’t been that he was smart enough to say, “Hey, if she’s going down that path, I better make sure.”

Patrik: Yeah. Yeah.

Emma: Yeah. We were just really upset from the start that it seemed like we were pushed into the ivermectin in order to get any treatment.

Julius: Oh, no, no. We wanted ivermectin.

Emma: Not the ivermectin, I’m sorry, the remdesivir. Just in order to get her treatment. And now it’s like, “Well …” Because she was in dire straits, she needed the oxygen right away. We were very desperate. And I was actually sick at the time. My brother did this without … I was kind of ticked that I wasn’t there, but I had severe chest congestion and I didn’t really feel like going through … I’m not paranoid, mind you, right, but I didn’t feel like walking through the COVID ward in my condition at that moment.

Patrik: Yeah.

Emma: So, I really wish I would’ve been there, but I just got over something myself.

Julius: So, do you think that I should … I mean, in her state, I’m just so scared.

Patrik: If I were you, the action steps that I would take for now is take some pictures, get access to the medical records, and I will email you some evidence that you have the right to access medical records.

Julius: Okay. Okay.

Emma: Okay.

Patrik: Take some pictures, get access to the medical records, suggest the nitric oxide and the epoprostenol and see what they’re saying.

Julius: Yeah. It’s spelled, the-

Patrik: I’ll email it.

Julius: Okay, great.

Patrik: I’ll email it to you in a minute.

Julius: And it’s interesting when you mentioned that, because I have, like I said, this nurse that’s our cousins. And I mentioned just quickly, I said that we’d gotten in touch with you and we’re … I said, hmm.” He’s very …” I said, “He’s got a different way to look at things for what the condition is right now.” And I mentioned that nitric oxide, and he said … He’s got enough schooling in medicine. He was more pharmaceutical. His wife is a nurse. He’s like, “Interesting.” I mean, he was like … never even thought. Because they’re so groomed to this plan of COVID. It’s-

Patrik: But I can assure you that we’ve consulted so many clients in the last years with COVID, especially with COVID ARDS. A lot of patients have ended up on nitric oxide. It’s not unique, wouldn’t be unique to your mom.

Julius: Perfect.

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Emma: Could you explain how that works, the nitric?

Patrik: Yep. The nitric oxide, basically, so with ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome) … I don’t know, have you seen your mom’s X-ray, chest X-ray?

Emma: Yes.

Julius: Yeah, we did.

Emma: Yes. We actually did, after multiple, multiple calls.

Julius: I’m trying to.

Emma: Efficacy. Yes.

Patrik: Right. So, the Chest X-Ray would be a complete whiteout.

Emma: Yeah.

Patrik: Would be completely white.

Julius: Yes.

Patrik: Right. So that means there’s no oxygen, next there’s no gas exchange happening in the lung. So very little.

Emma: Yeah.

Patrik: Right?

Emma: I agree with that.

Julius: Yup.

Emma: Yeah.

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