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Hi, it’s Patrik Hutzel from intensivecarehotline.com with another quick tip for families in intensive care.
So today, I have a question from Frank who says, “How long does it take for BIPAP to lower high carbon dioxide or high CO2? My mom has been in intensive care for the last two days for high CO2. She’s got asthma and COPD. So, I really want to know how long will it take for a BIPAP to help with high CO2?” So, what a great question, Frank.
After having worked in intensive care for over 20 years in three different countries, I can tell you that it really depends. I have seen patients coming in with high CO2, high carbon dioxide with asthma COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease), and then you put patients on BIPAP (Bi-level Positive Airway Pressure).
You put an arterial line in and then you do an arterial blood gas and high CO2s (Carbon Dioxide) can go from 70 mmHg down to 50, less than 45 within no time within a few hours, or sometimes you need to adjust the BIPAP over a number of days. You need to see how much BIPAP is working, for example, is a PEEP of 5 with a pressure support of 10 above 5 working? Do you need to go higher with PEEP (Positive End-Expiratory Pressure) and pressure support? So, I don’t want to get too technical here but at the end of the day, you might have to adjust the BIPAP to get the CO2 down and there might be a little bit of trial and error.
It also depends on whether, in intensive care, you need to start somewhere on opiates or on sedatives when they’re on BIPAP, even though we should try and avoid it because opiates, in particular, have respiratory depression as a side effect. Therefore, CO2 can rise as part of the side effect. So, keep all of that in mind when looking for how long will it take for the BIPAP to lower your mom’s PCO2 (Partial Pressure of Carbon Dioxide) or carbon dioxide for asthma and COPD.
Other things that come into play are conscious level, is your mom awake? Is she drowsy? Again, is she getting mild sedatives or opiates? Ideally not, hopefully she can tolerate the BIPAP without needing sedatives or opiates. But those are all part of how long it will take for the BIPAP to get the CO2 or carbon dioxide down.
Some of it will also depend on whether your mom can get mobilized and whether she can get out of bed because if someone is lying in bed all day, they’re not sitting up, they can’t expand their breathing muscles. That also means they might have difficulties exhaling or breathing out the carbon dioxide. So, those are all factors that impact on how long it will take for BIPAP to lower PCO2 or carbon dioxide.
Last but not least, it is important that CO2 can be lowered when using BIPAP because otherwise, the risk that a patient or your mom in this situation might need intubation or might need put on a ventilator with the breathing tube is pretty high. So, therefore, it is critical that CO2 is coming down.
Another reason why CO2 needs to come down is if you’re not getting CO2 down to a level of 35 to 45 mmHg, your mom or patients can get drowsy. Too much carbon dioxide simply makes people drowsy and sleepy. Again, that is a risk for your mom or for any patient to need intubation and being put on a ventilator with a breathing tube, that’s what the BIPAP should prevent. So, keep all of that in mind.
So, that is my quick tip for today.
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Take care for now.