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Quick Tip for Families in Intensive Care: How to Wean My Dad Off the Ventilator, Inotropes/Vasopressors, and Dialysis?
Hi, it’s Patrik Hutzel from intensivecarehotline.com with another quick tip for families in intensive care.
So, today’s tip is about a question that we had from a client recently who has their loved one in intensive care for long periods of time. They’re asking, “How can they clear the pneumonia for their dad in ICU? How can they wean off the inotropes and the vasopressors, which are considered life support in intensive care? How can they clear the kidney failure or improve the kidney failure, and how can they wean him off the ventilator?” That’s a question that many families in intensive care have and let’s go through them one at a time.
One way to clear infection and pneumonia is with antibiotics, but also with ventilation therapy. In this case, the client has a ventilator and a tracheostomy. So, that is one way to clear the infection. It’s also important that you do regular pressure area care so that collapsed parts of the lungs are elevated. Sometimes it helps head up or head down, and obviously, the right antibiotics, assuming it’s a bacterial infection or the right antiviral medication, if it’s a virus or the right antifungal medications, if it’s a fungal infection. So. that’s number one.
If the infection then comes down, that’s also often a way to go down with the inotropes and vasopressors, such as norepinephrine, noradrenaline, epinephrine, vasopressin, and a few others because they are considered life support as well.
Now, other ways to get vasopressor or inotrope support down are to look at blood results. For example, if hemoglobin is low, hemoglobin is the red blood cells, then a blood transfusion might also help to get inotropes and vasopressor support down.
So, there’s a number of things you need to look at, which is why I’m always saying, when someone is in intensive care, it’s like piecing together a puzzle. There’s dozens of things happening simultaneously, and unless you understand how the body system works and unless you understand all the moving pieces, you have no idea what you’re looking for.
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Coming back to our questions today. So, how do you then manage kidney failure? So, this particular client’s dad is on CRRT (Continuous Renal Replacement Therapy), also known as hemofiltration. It often takes time for the kidneys to heal. Sometimes the kidneys kick back in again and will start making urine, and sometimes they don’t. It’s not a one size fits all. Unfortunately, some patients, after intensive care, require dialysis for the rest of their lives.
So, it’s also intensive care, you have to be patient. Unfortunately, there are sometimes no magic tricks, and it’s just time that will help to get people from point A to point B and improve their condition. My advice is to talk to the renal specialist as well here.
Next, how do you wean then your dad off the ventilator and the tracheostomy? Obviously, the infection needs to be cleared first. Inotropes and vasopressor support needs to come down or that needs to be stopped altogether. Then, you can start focusing on ventilation weaning. In this particular case, our client’s dad was already making headway with weaning off the ventilator. They were already making progress but then the infection in.
That’s also another thing in intensive care, it’s two steps forward, one step back most of the time. So, patience is critical here, and I also know that intensive care teams are often not very patient. They work on their own timelines, which are often based on bed management strategy. They’re based on their finances. They’re not often based on the best interest of the patient.
If they think they’re losing money on a patient, then you often get the doom and gloom and you get told, “Oh, well, it’s not in the best interest for your family member to live. It’s in the best interest for them to die.” I mean, that’s just bollocks. That’s just a whole lot of nonsense. Then you get the doom and gloom talk when the finances no longer makes sense for the ICU, when they look at the business case, which is very demoralizing, and it’s very sad. But at least you now know the forces at play, and you can counteract them. That’s what we’ve been doing from Day 1 here with very good results.
Once the infection is clear, once inotropes have been weaned then they need to start mobilizing your loved ones. They need to start mobilizing them and have a weaning plan. There are so many clients we are working with and have worked with over the years that the ICUs have no weaning plan. They’re just dabbling around, and there needs to be a weaning plan. There needs to be a method in going from point A to point B. All the successful weaning cases that I’ve seen over the years all starts with a weaning plan, and then following through on that weaning plan.
Of course, if it doesn’t work making changes, like I said, it’s often two steps forward, one step back. But if there is no weaning plan, your loved one stands a very low chance to ever be weaned off that ventilator. So, I hope that helps.
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