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Hi, it’s Patrik Hutzel from intensivecarehotline.com with another quick tip for families in intensive care.
So, today’s tip is for Loretta who has an email and Loretta says,
“Hi Patrik,
My brother nodded yes when asked if he wanted some ice cream today. Again, he is in a medically induced coma for being septic and they have been lowering the medications to try and bring him out of his coma slowly and are having a tracheostomy to be scheduled.
Do you think that this is necessary to do a tracheostomy?
Can you give me your professional opinion on what you think about the situation right now that I just told you about?”
Well, the good news is Loretta that your brother is waking up and that he wants ice cream. That’s a good thing, that means his brain must be working. So, that’s the positives.
If he’s neurologically intact, which it sounds to me like he is, if he’s nodding, if he can answer questions appropriately, then the question whether he should have a tracheostomy, lies in his ventilator settings.
So, “He’s in a medically induced coma. They are lowering medications. Does that mean he’s strong enough to breathe up and have the breathing tube removed and breathe on his own?” That’s where the question really lies with and the answer.
What are his ventilator settings? Is he breathing in CPAP (continuous positive airway pressure), pressure support ventilation mode? Is his breathing rate normal between sort of 8 to 20, 24? Are his tidal volumes adequate for his weight, which means 7 to 10 ml per kilo. So, let’s just say your brother is 80 kg, 7 to 10 ml per breath. That means around, 650 to 800 ml per breath.
So, if that is maintained, what is his PEEP (positive end expiratory pressure) like? Is his PEEP less than 5 or 5? Is his pressure support less than 10? Are his arterial blood gases within normal range? Is he having a good strong cough? Can he clear his airway? That is when he can actually be taken off the ventilator and won’t need the tracheostomy.
If he’s not ready to be extubated because the support he needs from the ventilator is too high, then he will need a tracheostomy.
On the other hand, it also depends how many days he’s been in the induced coma for. Maybe it’s only been a couple of days, maybe it’s only been 3 or 4 days. Then he’s certainly shouldn’t have a tracheostomy. It should only be done Day 10, Day 14. So, you need to look at timelines as well.
If he’s awake, if he can obey commands, if he can have a meaningful response to questions, if he’s breathing and pressure support CPAP on low settings, he can clear his airway, his arterial blood tests gases are fine, then he should be extubated and then a tracheostomy is not needed. If he can’t meet those criteria then a tracheostomy be needed after Day 10 to Day 14 of mechanical ventilation and the breathing tube. So, I hope that helps.
I have written an article about, “How to wean a critically ill patient off the breathing tube and the ventilator?” and I will link towards an article below. You can have a look at it in more detail.
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